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I'm having trouble finding a monitoring solution for my setup. I'm just getting started with looping. I'm playing hand percussion into an SM57, going into a mic impedance adapter connected to my Boss RC2 loop pedal, then out via patch cable to a Behringer HA400 micro headphone amp which powers a set of headphones with a stereo jack.
My problem is that what comes though the headphones is a weak mono signal in one ear only. Is there a good place in the chain to use a stereo to mono adaptor? I'm sure ditching the headphone amp and getting a little 4 channel mixer or a guitar/ keyboard amp would solve this, but don't want to make the investment just yet. Any suggestions?
My problem is that what comes though the headphones is a weak mono signal in one ear only. Is there a good place in the chain to use a stereo to mono adaptor? I'm sure ditching the headphone amp and getting a little 4 channel mixer or a guitar/ keyboard amp would solve this, but don't want to make the investment just yet. Any suggestions?
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Re: Setup for percussion?
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 3:41 AMIf the signal is too weak I'm afraid that no re-patching will help.
Probably you don't have enough gain.
The HA400 is expecting a line level signal.
A Y connector from the RC-2 to the HA400 would give you both ears at least
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Re: Setup for percussion?
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 3:42 AMany one worth their salt at Radio Shack should be able to help you with a solution to this problem.
and I believe you would want to put a stereo to mono adaptor at the end of your chain (right before your
headphones)
and a little word about investment: You get out of equipment what you put into it.
They always say in carpentry that you should always used the right tool for the right job.
This is so true in electronics as well.
They are making really excellent and inexpensive mixers these days (and they all have a powered headphone jack in them).
Yamaha and Berhinger both have excellent little two mic/4 stereo line input mixers that are around $100.
With them, you won't need that pesky impedance adaptor any more for your SM57 and you'll be able to start to mix
other signals into your mixer to send to your looper pedal.
YOu'd be amazed what $9 worth of parts (piezo buzzer, some stereo cable and a quarter inch jack) can do to make
almost anything percussive sound incredible. A little mixer is going to be absolutely essential if you ever are to
get sophisticated about your percussion looping setup.
Start saving your dough now for such a set up. YOu'll be so glad you did.
Remember, a looper and a mixer are every bit as much of an instrument as your hand percussion and hand drums are.
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Re: Setup for percussion?
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 6:33 AMThanks for the feedback guys.
I think it's time to get the mixer... which brings me to question number 2: With one of the mixers that Rick mentioned, I assume one could run a couple mics into the xlr inputs and then use 1 or 2 line inputs on the remaining channels, with the looper going through the effects send. In a live performance setup (solo, with no other instruments to monitor) would it be logical to just "self-monitor" from the mixer with some in-ear monitors?
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Re: Setup for percussion?
Fri, February 1, 2008 - 12:54 AMLooking the Behringer HA400 the reason you only got one channel was because the input is for a stereo jack, and you used a mono.
To connect a mono signal to the H400 you just need a mono lead where one mono jack is replaced by a stereo one, and the live signal is connected to both the tup and ring of the stereo jack (ground stays the same).
A small mixer do the trick of course :-)
Anything that has at least one mic pre.
If the mixer is too small to have FX send you can still route it's output to the RC-2 and then go to your HA400,
(which possibly has better headphone and than the cheapest mixer)
If it has FX send you can bring the RC2 back into the mixer on one of the line channels, but I'm not sure that the RC-2
allows you to turn down the dry signal completely, which is what you'd need to do if using it like that.
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