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Hi folks,
This is my first time posting here and though I have been playing around with looping for a couple of years, I'm still very much a neophyte. I know of Rick through the Yahoo frame drummers forum as well as other groups I belong to.
The question I have is regarding a post Rick made awhile back (if not here, then another group) but I would welcome answers from anyone who can help. I have an upcoming art gallery gig in which I will be doing a solo gong performance (as in me by myself, not one gong...but boy, wouldn't that make it challenging to keep it interesting...but I digress). I would like to do some looping but will not have access to power. Rick, I know you did a gig at PASIC using a battery powered amp. What amp did you use and does anyone else have a good recommendation as well?
Thanks ahead of time.
Bill Smith
This is my first time posting here and though I have been playing around with looping for a couple of years, I'm still very much a neophyte. I know of Rick through the Yahoo frame drummers forum as well as other groups I belong to.
The question I have is regarding a post Rick made awhile back (if not here, then another group) but I would welcome answers from anyone who can help. I have an upcoming art gallery gig in which I will be doing a solo gong performance (as in me by myself, not one gong...but boy, wouldn't that make it challenging to keep it interesting...but I digress). I would like to do some looping but will not have access to power. Rick, I know you did a gig at PASIC using a battery powered amp. What amp did you use and does anyone else have a good recommendation as well?
Thanks ahead of time.
Bill Smith
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 10:57 AMI've used a Pignose Hog 20, but if I was to buy one now I'd look at the Crate Taxi or Limo, depending on your budget. Above that, Carvin makes a battery powered PA type amp which probably has the highest fidelity of those I've mentioned, but is also around $500 if I remember correctly. -
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 11:32 AMVox makes a really sweet one, that packs quite a punch for the low wattage. Very good tone and some onboard effects as well. Don't remember what the price was but I am sure it was under $200. I demo'd it with a guitar so it might be different depending on what your putting through it. -
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Wed, January 10, 2007 - 2:12 PMI used the PEAVEY SOLO
at PASIC but it was at the end of the day on Saturday
(when noise restrictions violations are ignored because
it's the end of the show and there's nothing to get kicked out of)
and the volume just didn't cut it.
It would be fine for a low volume situation but if you had
even fair to moderate restaurant noise I'm not sure it would
work.
I may use it on the mall (and hope not to get arrested)
I got it used for around $100.
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Mon, January 29, 2007 - 2:23 AMthe ideal portable amp would have a power plug to run the rest of your gear too. -
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Mon, January 29, 2007 - 1:36 PMYes, Frakture, but as is frequently the case with equipment, beggars cannot be choosers.
I don't know a single battery powered amp that has an ac plug and I would doubt that anyone
would design one because it would be too much drain on the battery.
I'm selling my Peavey (sounds great just now loud enough for me) and buying the Vox.
I decided today.
It's up for sale for $100 and I'll include shipping if anyone is interested.
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Mon, January 29, 2007 - 1:43 PMahhh, you went with the Vox. I didn't play it for too long, but I was definitely impressed by it. Glad to see it worked out for you.
You've just got to love the amazing resource that this community has become...
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 12:26 PMYes, it occurred to me that after posting my initial question, that I would still need power for my looping pedal, so back to square one.
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Tue, January 30, 2007 - 4:55 PMThat's why I use the Line 6 DL-4 delay modelor for my battery powered shows.
I have a battery powered headset mic, a little battery powered mixer, a battery
powered Boss intellishifter, a Line 6 DL-4 and then I velcroed
everything onto a rack system used by marching drummers with
a little battery powered plastic Barbie compact disc amplifier.
I can walk around doing looping stuff which is cool but it's very, very low fi.
The Vox, which I purchased today, will limit my walking ability still will let me
play on the street.
It's illegal to have amplification in Santa Cruz on the Mall, but I'm going to build a
little pedal board, sit on the amp as a stool and then cover the whole thing
with black cloth so that I can just hit an on/off button any time I see a cop and
it will appear that I'm just some crazy street person sitting on a blanket.
I"m so outraged that harley davidsons and low riders with speakers mounted on the outsides of their
vehicles, and bad hippy drumming jams can create deafening volumes on the mall but if someone
does something innovative at a reasonable volume they can be fined or even go to jail for it.
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Fri, February 2, 2007 - 4:43 AMOK Rick, so you have had the Vox a few days now...what's the verdict? Does it rock Rick of Rock?
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Sat, February 3, 2007 - 5:06 AMlol, my brother promised me delivery but we've both been in the midst of our respective work weeks so I
still have no direct experience.
I'll post a review as soon as possible.
<chuckling> I can't believe that Peyman's nickname for me has gotten out into the world.
I don't know why , but it delights me to be known as Rick of Rock.
Most people don't even know it but I"m actually a a very good and confident minimal Rock trapset drummer.
It kills me that Peyman Nashepour, one of the truly great Iranian drummers calls me this.
I feel humbled and also tickled pink to be referred to this way.
Thanks Bill.......................I'll let youknow the instant I have a considered opinion.
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 1:43 AMI never replied to this queery about the VOX.
I love, love,, love , love the VOX battery powered amp.
One of the coolest things about it, is that there is a knob that has
a dozen amp models in it from very , very clean to very very overdriven
and a knob that has different effects and even combined effects. like compressors,
modulation, reverbs, delays.
They are fairly primitive but what I love more about it is that you can manipulate the sound
by rapidly twirling either of the knobs.
Each time you go from one click on the dial to the next, the unit cuts out like a square wave
just momentarily.
If you twirl the knobs rapidly you can do very hip gliching rhythmic things with the amplifier
As a drummer and also as a fan of glitch and noise genres in both electronica and rock, this
is just amazing.....................................and the thing is plenty loud for
me to mic it on stage and be able to manipulate the results through my looping rig.
It's a little too much to take it with me on European tours, I think, but I can have loads of fun with it here
in California.
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 2:58 PMI use a Roland Micro Cube -which I love because it uses AA batteries ad so is still light-weight
BUT... most *loopers* I know of require AC current. You could use a car battery and a 12v/110v inverter.
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Mon, March 16, 2009 - 10:31 PMyes the vox da-5 is great...it's inexpensive, sounds good, batteries last forever, and it has a mic input also. buy one! -
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Fri, March 20, 2009 - 6:57 AMI just did a noise show with the Vox and also a brand new
Roland Micro Cube Bass amplifier.
I had two lines of processing on my pedal board, one for guitar and one for bass.
I had the pedal board up at about stomach high (standing up)
and I put the two amps side by side; miced them and then ran the whole
shebang through my Looperlative LP-1.
I had a fantastic show and just loved that I could really control distortion and feedback
because of my proximity to the amps and yet, I could keep the volume really
reasonable.
I'm just in love with this setup. I most did noise and the rhythmic manipulation of noise.
I had a strat (tuned DDDDD, with all the Ds just barely out of tune with each other for not only a physical chorusing effect, but also because the partials and overtones were slightly different which excited the feedback and fuzz/distortion giving it all a thicker sound though I was hitting single note chords.
Strat went into:
Line 6 DL-4 looper (on the floor) ==>
DOD Buzz Box ==>
Boss Slicer Pedal ==>
Boss OC20 Distortion Modeller ==>
Ibanez Demon Wah ==>
The VOX
12 String Robelli Bass went into:
Line 6 DL-4 (on the floor) up onto the table into a
DOD MeatBox ==>
Alesis Ampliton (rare and incredible dual tremelo pedal) ==>
Digitech DF-7 Distortion Modeller ==>
BOSS envelope filter -==>
The ROLAND BASS CUBE
all miced and into the LP-1 for final slicing and dicing.
I also used toy and real megaphones for feedback control
and
1 huge marching bass drum (with chains on it to provide acoustic faux distortion
1 huge marching snare drum (with the same)
A cool and monolithic setup to fuck around in rhythmic and musical ways with
feedback
I had a blast.
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Re: Battery Operated Amps
Thu, April 2, 2009 - 1:32 PMi've got a roland microcube, but i haven't used it much. willing to part with it if you're still looking...