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Re: Anyone think of going virtual?
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 4:17 AMan interesting development...
yet part of the charm IS the hardware aspect of the original! ;-) -
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Re: Anyone think of going virtual?
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 5:16 AMIt was released this week officially.
I love my hardware version but for lugging it on and off trains and planes when
touring in Europe, I can't wait to get it on a laptop with
a couple of iterations of Mobius (the freeware software version of the Gibson Echoplex).
Also, if it's in a VST mode, you can run multiple iterations of it in your VST host.
UBER COOL.
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Re: Anyone think of going virtual?
Sun, November 25, 2007 - 10:10 PMI used *freewheeling at the y2k7 loopfest
The best thing about it is the footswitch. It doesn't have vst or better yet au support, but there is some type of synth module that you can play with
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the real deal on virtual
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 10:26 PMi would really like some real insight from current experienced virtual users.
After the last straw i finally put the hammer to my less than dependable RC-50
"crash, parts flying, loud noises!!$%&@"
so i am in the market.
I do really dig the extended options avaliable or at least suggested for virtual, however i am always concerned about lags and dropouts from a laptop hardrive. I couldnt fathom schlepping my bulkd up studio pc around to gigs to insure maximum performance.
So please input most appreciated before i drop my next coins.
Best inputs to Laptop, hardware, settings min clock speeds etc.
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Re: the real deal on virtual is there is no deal.
Sun, December 30, 2007 - 7:22 PMthe software is acid... the beauty is loops. i have about 20 gig of loops and effects for acid and sound forge. beautiful software.
drop the coins, but this savage uses www.bittorrent.com . download loop/drum software for free. step 1 : download bittorrent. (www.bittorrent.com) step 2: download software torrents (www.mininova.org). step 3: install, crack, play.
only problem this is america and free software is illegal. so caution or leave america :)
software vs. hardware. check out brainwave generator. grab a bongo and beat to the schuman resonance. better yet.. record the bongo, stream into some software... edit via the software and make bongo sound realllly trippy... then push trippy edited-recording/beat slice into acid or some other software to loop and play. artificial mind blowing sounds via an original goat skin drum. start with the original basics (bongos, steel drums, vocals crickets), record (soundforge, adobe audition), edit (soundforge, wavelab, cakewalk), play and drift (priceless). if really good... get two mp3 turnables (and a microphone)... input the sounds you make, twist and roll, spin and splice, mix and match. check out "gabriel and dresden".
back to the north, ciao.
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Re: the real deal on virtual is there is no deal.
Mon, December 31, 2007 - 1:26 AMuhhhh, I think the point of all of this is that the person wants to loop live in real time.
I love Sony's ACID and use it a lot, but it is not a real time looper.
The only program with that pardigm in Ableton's LIVE
in the September issue of DRUM! magazine, there is a very good 6 page article that contrasts my
style and gear in looping (completely improvisatory and using hardware only) with the wonderful
beatbox/vocalist/instrument simultating voice of Kid Beyond and his style and gear (reproducing precomposed
compositions and software only).
They explain his setup nicely.........it's much better for touring because it takes up less space.
I still prefer hardware but I also have wonderful endorsement deals that are an incentive for remaining in that world.
Max/MSP also looks really sexy (though intimidating for a high learning curve). You can do ANYTHING with the program
but you have to make it. Check out the amazing Jeff Kaiser or Krispen Hartung's music for examples of wonderful things they use
this powerful program for.
Additionally, the EDP by Gibson has been emulated in software (Windows only) in a freeware program called Mobius.
Per Boysen is a fantastic example of a musician using Plogue BIDULE as a host to run multiple instances of MOBIUS
as his live looping set.
Google these guys or go to youtube and google Y2k7 in the next few days, there should be some videos of them up there.
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Re: the real deal on virtual is there is no deal.
Wed, January 2, 2008 - 9:58 PMThanks Rick,
You know after reading thru some of the posts i decided to check out freewheeling. I ve been looking for a reason to reinstall a Linux OS on my laptop. Ok! Nice program with some merits for sure, and found my way to some really kicken new and FREE Linux based studio stuff. although im certainly Not ready to dive fully in to re forming my entire studio to linux but nice nonetheless. but...
Like you say just hard to beat the dedicated hardware for the live gigging. And I say that even though i am not so lucky to have a tasty endorsement deal (least not yet)
I think with the depth and variety of looping i am doing these days i am seriously thinking about the Looperlative rack setup. -
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Re: the real deal on virtual is there is no deal.
Wed, January 2, 2008 - 10:50 PMif you are going to be at NAMM in Anaheim on the 18,19 and 20th
I'll be demoing twice daily at the Looperlative booth and would be more
than happy to give you a personal demonstration of this unit.
IT's really amazing and even more so, every person who owns one has free software upgrades
instantaneously through the ethernet connection on the back of their unit as long as they have
access to a computer with broadband internet connections.
You hook the thing up and two minutes later you have brand new software installed and running
in your Looperlative.................for FREE................FOREVER!!!!!
I don't think there is anything like it in the hardware world in this respect.
Also, the owners of the unit become a consensus for what design features will be added in future
software upgrades.
I've designed two things that will be in the new software by NAMM if all goes well. I can't even talk about them yet,
but they are bitchen if you are into slicing and dicing of loops.
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Re: Anyone think of going virtual?
Sat, March 1, 2008 - 8:15 AMDead now, right? Try Sensomusic's Usine, I use it plus lots of VSTs including Mobius, though Usine has very nice loopers built into it.
